BEKSBKS; just becuase you are on the do not call list. DON'T MEAN YOU CAN GO OUT INTO YOUR STREET and work them over if you feel in the mood. Remember the street is free your front door is your castle. never wait go up to them on your street and watch them run with a few well placed questions...
judge rutherFRAUD
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I tried to talk to JW's today and they ran away.
by moshe ini spotted them out in fs on my block as i turned into my driveway, so i waited for them to come around to my side of the street.
they were in a huddle, 2 sisters and 2 brothers- the brothers had a young boy around 6 with them to get sympathy.
i had my 1924 wt book, the way to paradise, in hand and approached them.
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I tried to talk to JW's today and they ran away.
by moshe ini spotted them out in fs on my block as i turned into my driveway, so i waited for them to come around to my side of the street.
they were in a huddle, 2 sisters and 2 brothers- the brothers had a young boy around 6 with them to get sympathy.
i had my 1924 wt book, the way to paradise, in hand and approached them.
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judge rutherFRAUD
Wobble; yes that book is avalable " the way to paradise" 1924 reprint at LULU.COM for about $10 as well as a bunch of other old wt reprints. Moshe is very effective for a few reasons. First he uses what he learned as a jw to catch housdeholders off guard with superior knowledge of a subject, point being Moshe knows more about the WTS than 99% of jw's. SO WHEN OLD Moshe shows up on the scene, he has his pre programmed questions he know jw's can't answer, the same way jw's come to your door with some wacky presention that most householders can't answer. here's the kicker no matter how the jw's answer Moshe, he just keeps buring them with his knowledge, till the point they know THEY ARE IN OVER THIER HEADS. AND TRUST ME JW'S KNOW WHEN THEY LOSE AN SPRITUAL DEBATE. you just have to know how to make them cry uncle. Next to every XJW here was taught at the hall how to out knowledge almost any householder. Moshe just turns the table on them, using thier own tactics and out plays them at their own game. IT'S CALLED GIVING THEM A TASTE OF THEIR OWN MEDICINE. And they hate the taste. I know always go target very young jw's and give them a fast history lesson them tell them to google wts false prophecies. then like Moshe embarrass the older jw's in the group and show what a spritual drunkardes they are following around d2d . I know I promised not to tell any more stories, but here is one from tonight. my sister in law in in from out of town and I'm driving her back from a get together, well I see 2 jw's waiting for the bus, and stopped to talk to them I picked the topic of shunning, since my jw dad was not at the get together tonight. well the jw's said I didn't know what I was talking about. when my sister in law got out of the car and told them off about how I have been shunned and that's on of the reasons that grandpa the jw's wasn't out to see his new born grand=child while she was in town for a few weeks. they didn't know what to say and my sil is a very shy person. you can just feel the LOVE COMING FROM JOE-HOVERS ORG.
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I tried to talk to JW's today and they ran away.
by moshe ini spotted them out in fs on my block as i turned into my driveway, so i waited for them to come around to my side of the street.
they were in a huddle, 2 sisters and 2 brothers- the brothers had a young boy around 6 with them to get sympathy.
i had my 1924 wt book, the way to paradise, in hand and approached them.
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judge rutherFRAUD
mOSHE ; what really amazes me is how easy you can ask jw's a few easy bible questions and make them ,either run for the hills or stand there like spritual drunkards. It's like taking candy away from a baby in a crib... AND I read all the DOORMAT posts here from very knowledgable XJW that have next to nothing to lose from the wts and still let the wt walk all over them, that was a side note. as you know it's spring time and the dubs are out in force. Preaching the false gospel of 1914, . and there a a hand full of xjws around that work the streets like your self. I will not post any of my anti wt work here any longer, since the crybaby posters here got me banned a few years ago. but the streets are wide open , and I plan on having a great season. Moshe i always ask jw's to pick their POISON, when ever they are looking to run away. I can't wait to here you next exposure of the jw's
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I tried to talk to JW's today and they ran away.
by moshe ini spotted them out in fs on my block as i turned into my driveway, so i waited for them to come around to my side of the street.
they were in a huddle, 2 sisters and 2 brothers- the brothers had a young boy around 6 with them to get sympathy.
i had my 1924 wt book, the way to paradise, in hand and approached them.
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judge rutherFRAUD
Moshe ; I'm surprised at you !!! you know you need to set them up first. make them commit to the 1920's. then drop the bomb. I know you were too fast on the draw or they were too fast to run even to give a persentation, before you even spoke. happens to me all the time, a dub will see someone that is willing to talk to them/or take a mag. and they jump into traffic just to avoid anyone that will even say hello to them. It's to hard to preach when you can just hold a mag over your heart for 4 hours and not save anyone. I saved a guy I know at the gas station this week, when this zombie was trying to work him over . he thanked me for coming over and then I reported it to the station manager that this dope is harrassing customers pumping gas. Moshe I have forgotten all about the WT BOOK "THE WAY TO PARADISE" 1924 as I spent lots of time on 'MILLION NOW LIVING WILL DIE" 1920 BUT ALL THESE BOOKS ARE REPRINTED on LULU.COM for about $10 each. And as Moshe shows every time in feild service jw's will run for their SPRITUAL DRUNKARDNESS when encounted with why they are worshipping the wts and have no idea what in the world they BELIEVE AS TRUTH. ,
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Answers for QUESTIONS about 1914 and early WTS HISTORY/ FALSE PROPHECY
by judge rutherFRAUD ini've been reading a lot of topics lately, asking how to handle rabid jw family members/ elders to prove 1914, 1925, 1874, generation, blood, vaccanations pyramids.
etc false using only wts publication... well it's not so easy, you have to have knowledge of wts history and the bible.
watchtower history being the key point.
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- I've BEEN reading a lot of topics lately, asking how to handle RABID JW FAMILY MEMBERS/ ELDERS TO prove 1914, 1925, 1874, Generation, blood, vaccanations pyramids. etc FALSE using only WTS PUBLICATION... WELL IT's NOT SO EASY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF WTS HISTORY AND THE BIBLE. WATCHTOWER HISTORY BEING THE KEY POINT. I know many here have read RAY FRANZ'S bookS and they are great, no question. But there are DEEPER BOOKS into WTS HISTORY, REPRINTS THAT ARE AVAILALBE FOR $7- $20 That will make 99% of jw's SHIT in thier pants , I my self like love to STUMBLE THE LIVING CPAP OUT OF JW'S on the "revelation climax book," and "live forever book" using REPRINTS OF "MILLIONS NOW LIVING WILL NEVER DIE" and how every thing they were teaching at the CEDAR POINT OHIO conventions in 1919 and 1922 was forfullment of bible prophecy. FUNNY I NEVER MET ONE JW IN 40 YEARS THAT HAD ANY IDEA WHAT IS TAUGHT AS BIBLE TRUTH TODAY that was preached at the 1922 convention. So just by reading old wt books I have 99% of jw'S OVER A BARRELL. And they know it. Here is a short list of books that can help any FADER, XJW ETC handle RABID JW'S. of course 'MILLIONS NOW LIVING WILL NEVER DIE' is my favorite. " a BIBLE FOR A SCIENTIST" talks about how the WTS WORSHIPPED PYRAMIDS and 1914. " a people for his name" is an other great book going over russell, rutherFRAUD, and Knorr. "THE FOUR PRESIDENTS OF THE WATCHTOWER SOCIETY" is a great book for x jw's that want to look up older wts, and see their lies. " THE DESOLATION OF THE SANCTUARY" is a great book for learning about the early WTS infactutation with QUACK MEDICINE. aND ALL THESE AND OTHER WELL RESEARCHED books are sold on AMAZON AND LULU.COM DIRT CHEAP. and are very ACCURATE when quoting from WTS BOOKS. I'm guessing some of the more knowledgable posters can direct , many posters here which books will help them in their path to deal with themselves and jw family... rutherFRAUD
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Best Music Concert you Attended - Favorite Live Musicians ?
by flipper insince spring weather is upon us - thought those of us that enjoy live music may have fun with this one !.
my favorite live musicians i have seen are follows :.
and which show or group was your favorite ?
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judge rutherFRAUD
black sabbath 5x led zep 2x pink floyd 4x yes 5xs ted nugent, ozzyfest 2xs aerosmith 6xs van hAlen, dr. john, aretha franklin, jethro tull 3 3xs , soundgarden, johnny meastro brooklyn bridge, dion, alive and kicking, emerson lake and palmer, john rich, ashford and simpson many times at their club, the sugar bar let me tell you valerie simpson can really sing anything. diana ross, robert plant, billy joel, rod stewart, frankie valli, lisa lisa, allman bros, linda ronstadt, vicki sue robertson, etc
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Door to Door Message? A DIVERSION! Where does the MONEY go??
by Terry inthe door to door work is a sham.. the central activity of the watchtower bible and tract society is not spreading their so-called "message" about the kingdom of jehovah established in the heavens in 1914.. that's a load of propaganda.. the door to door activity is feckless in producing converts.
in fact, it is an immense failure of mammoth proportions!.
but, it is a diversion.
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I always like to ask older jw's "SO HOW MUCH DO THE WT MAG;S COST NOW"? 99% OF the time they will say " they were always free" At this time I have set them up to LIE FOR THE WTS. tHEN i ASK " how long have you been a jw?. remember I'm talking to jw's that have been in most likely for at least 40 + years if not more. THE TRAP HAS BEEN SET !!!!!!!! I go back so the mag's were never sold for a FIXED PRICE? AGAIN 99% OF THE time they will deny the mag's were ever sold for A FIXED PRICE... then I DROP THE BOMB whrn I was a young child 35 years ago I CLEARLY REMEMBER GOING TO THE HALL AND THE MAG'S HAD A SET PRICE ON THEM. AND MY JW FAMILY PEDDELING THEM FOR $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ . LAST I REMEMBER WAS $.25 CENTS per copy then I tell them about the case with Jimmy sarwart. and how i only COST THE WTS ABOUT $ .03 PENNIES EACH TO PRINT EACH MAG . SLAVE LABOR ,INK ,PAPER AND ALL. and ask what the hell they were doing with 1 1/2 to over $ 2 MILLIONS PROFIT THEY WERE TAKING IN EVERY WEEK FOR DECADES? the old jw's always run away / because I kicked their asses and MADE THEY LIE. LIKE TAKING CANDY FROM A BABY.... JC
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Just had JW come to the door to invite me to memorial
by tec inthis is the first time that i ever refused to go the memorial.
usually i make excuses or fall back on the 'maybe'.
in fact, i have never stated an opinion that differs with anything that a jw at my door says.
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TEC; you did a smart thing read john chapeter 6; 40-54 AND THE KEY WORD IN ALL THIS IS' ANYONE' be happy your huasbsand know the wt is full of shit
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Faders are indeed a very large doormat
by moshe insorry, to be so blunt- for a whole day i have watched people here patting themselves on the back- we're a large army, oohh, look out wt, we might do something, well not today or tomorrow, but someday!
maybe, i have to just accept that a lot of jw's who are exiting the kh by the back door will never find a backbone to stand up to mummy and elder daddy.. jw's have a learned ability to see themselves in a better light than everyone else sees them.
ask a jw, if they are a charitable religion and they would likely all say they are, but when pressed to name a charity they will be unable to do so.
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Moshe: I'm glad you talked about the 7-11 they have one here about 5 blocks from the hall. and I've hade more fun at 7-11 stopping presentations, getting jw's run into a busy avenue traffic just from the site of my face. they even called the police on me for talking to the persons they were trying to give mag's to... so much for freedom of religion. hahahahha OH JEHOVAH THEY HATE WHEN I GET OUT THE BIBLE. Moshe remember hardliners that stand up to the WTS ARE A MINORITY HERE. all you can do is hope some will learn from your experence . john cip
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Faders are indeed a very large doormat
by moshe insorry, to be so blunt- for a whole day i have watched people here patting themselves on the back- we're a large army, oohh, look out wt, we might do something, well not today or tomorrow, but someday!
maybe, i have to just accept that a lot of jw's who are exiting the kh by the back door will never find a backbone to stand up to mummy and elder daddy.. jw's have a learned ability to see themselves in a better light than everyone else sees them.
ask a jw, if they are a charitable religion and they would likely all say they are, but when pressed to name a charity they will be unable to do so.
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garyneal; first I like your posts and feel for you. ray franz, carl olof, etc are guys that BLEW OFF THE roof of LIES OF THE WTS . OF COURSE MOST JW WILL NEVER READ THEIR BOOKS I just this week has a talk with a jw and he was talking about Ray franz He gave me wt lies about Ray and I told him about Ray was m ade to write the "aid to bible understanding" book and how some of the thing Ray found out from researching bible history helped Ray leave the wts. so these are great books and have helped many x jw's. I'm just guessing that this jw was saying alot about Ray Fraz. he may have an idea that Ray was on to something. even tought he said he's not allowed to read any apostate books. he seemed to be fixed on ray franz. and I told him enough about RAY that may peek his intrest. to read his book and prove all things true. jc